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[00:14] <stellar-slack> this article in Harvard Political Review on effective altruism came out and it mentions @jed along w Elon Musk, Peter Thiel and the Skype founder on the "EA's Rise to Prominence" section: http://harvardpolitics.com/harvard/new-social-movement-generation-effective-altruism/
[00:25] <stellar-slack> jed: I think the switchover will have a claim page of the STR address, just like page for bitcoin/xrp holder, to get XLM.
[00:26] <stellar-slack> in 1:1 rate, they claim and get XLM for free, we claim and burned STR for XLM.
[00:28] <stellar-slack> I sold out almost all my XRP&BTC for STR on the first day stellar launch, like other stellar believers.
[00:33] <stellar-slack> I'm not complaining the price, which is under the risk of invest I take by my own.
[00:34] <stellar-slack> and I think stellar is still most promising.
[00:37] <stellar-slack> I was suggesting at the time of switchover, take a simple snapshot from https://www.stellar.org/stats/
[00:39] <stellar-slack> XLM for STR holder = (stellars not held by foundation) + (Total stellars* - 100bil) x Factor
[00:39] <stellar-slack> Total stellars* : 100bil + inflation
[00:42] <stellar-slack> thanks for your feedback lab:) Once we have all the details and mechanism sorted out, we will let everyone know.
[00:42] <stellar-slack> you are welcome joyce.
[00:44] <stellar-slack> This is an interesting story: http://qz.com/386272/we-dont-know-how-many-people-around-the-world-are-living-in-poverty/http://qz.com/386272/we-dont-know-how-many-people-around-the-world-are-living-in-poverty/
[00:51] <stellar-slack> many early adopters who provide liquidity of stellar in the past months are fans following jed from bitcoin and ripple community. the inflation-type distribution for STR holders make sense considering the upcoming 20bil bitcoin program.
[01:40] <stellar-slack> joyce: I enjoyed that article on effective altruism, thanks.
[04:02] <stellar-slack> assessment of remittence fee pricing: http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTPROSPECTS/Resources/AssessmentofRemittanceFeePricing.pdf
[04:30] <stellar-slack> Ooooh new ledger viewer! This one has nifty details about transaction history. http://stellar.im/
[04:31] <stellar-slack> @siko did you build this?
[04:45] <stellar-slack> https://www.aba.com/Press/Documents/e7a636cc2d244ec998d2ed16c23d1955CostofCheckingAccountsOnePageronJusttheCostsofAcco.pdf
[07:34] <stellar-slack> @matschaffer: testnet is down?
[10:18] <stellar-slack> @lab: you're still the only monitoring we have on it right now :-P -- lemme take a look
[10:19] <stellar-slack> testnet works for me
[10:20] <stellar-slack> all 3 nodes report `"state" : "Joining SCP”` so guessing no progress is being made
[10:21] <stellar-slack> ledger age is also 388966 so no new ledgers for the last ~4 days
[10:21] <stellar-slack> I’ll try a restart. See what happens
[10:23] <stellar-slack> the latest build seemed to do better on the dev cluster I set up today. I’ll try that next
[10:25] <stellar-slack> ah, I’m using the old testnet
[10:28] <stellar-slack> maybe I'm on the "old" one too? We're talking about the new iteration here?
[10:28] <stellar-slack> core not d
[10:30] <stellar-slack> dzham: oh you mean http://test.stellar.org|test.stellar.org ? yeah, pretty sure lab is looking at http://cluster-testnet.stellar.org|cluster-testnet.stellar.org
[10:31] <stellar-slack> or http://horizon-testnet.stellar.org|horizon-testnet.stellar.org
[10:32] <stellar-slack> @matschaffer: yeah, that’s what I realized :simple_smile:
[10:32] <stellar-slack> @lab: sorry, just tried https://github.com/stellar/stellar-core/commit/c85993fcc0e4f7e3d8df46fe23b95a8728c4043f which seems to have the same behavior. Will probably need a core dev to make a call on whether or not we need to reset history to get it moving
[10:33] <stellar-slack> it worked yesterday for the dev cluster I was standing up but that was on empty history
[12:47] <stellar-slack> @matschaffer: I am on head f4df451e
[12:48] <stellar-slack> yeah, I tried that first, then c8599. Both seemed to just stick on “Joining SCP"
[12:50] <stellar-slack> what is http://cluster-testnet.stellar.org|cluster-testnet.stellar.org? I config peers as PREFERRED_PEERS=[
[12:50] <stellar-slack> "http://core-testnet1.stellar.org|core-testnet1.stellar.org",
[12:50] <stellar-slack> "http://core-testnet2.stellar.org|core-testnet2.stellar.org",
[12:50] <stellar-slack> "http://core-testnet3.stellar.org|core-testnet3.stellar.org"
[12:50] <stellar-slack> ]
[12:51] <stellar-slack> it’s the ELB in front of all 3
[12:52] <stellar-slack> i c.
[12:52] <stellar-slack> I think direct access is still probably the best idea for now, but it’s there if it should look useful
[13:09] <stellar-slack> and the wider list: https://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=73816&public=1
[13:10] <stellar-slack> square/stripe/stellar are absent
[13:10] <stellar-slack> yeah but that's like saying matt said more than "use WP" to be an advisor here
[13:13] <stellar-slack> I prefer accomplished standard than committee standard too. :smile:
[13:14] <stellar-slack> I'm a cynic, and I make no bones about it :simple_smile:
[13:14] <stellar-slack> I like to see shit happening. Form what I've seen, SDF are making roads.
[13:15] <stellar-slack> stripe are doing their thing, they're for profit
[13:16] <stellar-slack> ripple, okay we're interested. For profit
[13:17] <stellar-slack> lab how can Stellar be on that real case scenario if we don't have an ecosystem for payments yet?
[13:19] <Kwelstr> oh, it was tigre who started the question about web payments use cases, sorry
[13:22] <stellar-slack> actruely they have eyes on stellar always: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Jul/0145.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Dec/0043.html
[13:23] <stellar-slack> back scratchers will scratch backs :simple_smile:
[13:25] <stellar-slack> @epsilon: : your metaphors are difficult to understand for a non-native english speaker like me. :blush:
[13:28] <stellar-slack> @dm: can i have the source code of white paper? I'm trying to translate it to Chinese.
[13:30] <stellar-slack> lab: yeah, I have to work on that. I'm the first to admit being lax with languages when chatting.
[13:32] <stellar-slack> @kwelstr don't mention it. i just want to know the reasons why RL has two participants in WPIG, while SDF has none. heh
[13:35] <stellar-slack> the pig ain't all that 'tho
[13:37] <stellar-slack> :unamused:
[13:37] <stellar-slack> hmm
[13:37] <stellar-slack> การสนับสนุน สนับสนุน
[13:38] <stellar-slack> idk to say in Chinese
[13:39] <stellar-slack> 这不是中文,是藏文...
[13:39] <stellar-slack> you do me a favour, then expect one in return.
[13:39] <stellar-slack> == back scratcher
[13:41] <stellar-slack> need an Ozzie -> Thai -> Tibet translator
[13:41] <stellar-slack> (that'll fuck 'em!)
[13:41] <stellar-slack> thanks for explaining.
[13:44] <stellar-slack> are you from Thailand?
[13:45] <stellar-slack> nah, Australian
[13:45] <stellar-slack> gf is Thai so I have a go at the lingo
[13:46] <stellar-slack> * try to communicate in Thai language
[13:48] <stellar-slack> I'm really bad at it, but I don't think they have the words to convey what I mean by "back scratchers"
[13:51] <stellar-slack> in English; it is a political idiom
[13:54] <stellar-slack> W3 aside, you're all aware that the first iteration of HTTP had the proviso for the transfer of money.
[13:55] <stellar-slack> you mean 402?
[13:56] <stellar-slack> 402 Payment Required
[13:56] <stellar-slack> well, that's an error code :simple_smile:
[16:14] <stellar-slack> presentation i gave about stellar at the sf bitcoin meetup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMEEZBKGcu0
[16:21] <stellar-slack> oooooooooooh
[16:21] <stellar-slack> awesome
[16:22] <stellar-slack> Coding ALL day http://i.imgur.com/bcUQOZ1.gif
[16:24] <stellar-slack> I want Stellar T-Shirt Please Ship me :stuck_out_tongue:
[16:30] <stellar-slack> where are you located?
[16:43] <stellar-slack> https://www.saveonsend.com/blog/Bitcoin/
[16:56] <stellar-slack> @joyce: I am from india
[17:43] <stellar-slack> andrew: /thumbsup
[17:44] <stellar-slack> cheers mate
[22:24] <bittrex-richie> hey dumb question
[22:24] <bittrex-richie> do accounts need to be prepped with STR before you can send something to them?
[22:24] <stellar-slack> no, as long as you send them at least the minimum balance (20 STR)
[22:24] <stellar-slack> so I can send an unfunded account 25 STR, but I can't send them 12 STR
[22:25] <stellar-slack> not a dumb question at all :simple_smile:
[22:25] <bittrex-richie> hmm
[22:25] <bittrex-richie> thanks.. secondary question..
[22:26] <bittrex-richie> we use the api call account/settings to figure out if an account is valid
[22:26] <bittrex-richie> this is completely breaking it cause its coming back as
[22:26] <bittrex-richie> {
[22:26] <bittrex-richie> "success": false,
[22:26] <bittrex-richie> "error_type": "transaction",
[22:26] <bittrex-richie> "error": "actNotFound",
[22:26] <bittrex-richie> "message": "Account not found."
[22:26] <bittrex-richie> }
[22:27] <bittrex-richie> are we doing the account validation incorrectly?
[22:27] <stellar-slack> maybe more of a #dev question :simple_smile:
[22:27] <stellar-slack> (I see you're on IRC - it's #stellar-dev
[22:28] <bittrex-richie> thanks.. :)
[22:32] <stellar-slack> sure thing
[22:53] <stellar-slack> anyone from europe/africa joining stellar meetup? :simple_smile:
[22:54] <stellar-slack> @bartek: I’ll be watching :simple_smile:
[22:55] <stellar-slack> awesome
[22:56] <stellar-slack> you guys can ask questions here if you have them. Would be super helpful to @ mention me just in case things are hectic :simple_smile:
[22:56] <stellar-slack> @donovan: where are you now?
[22:56] <stellar-slack> @bartek: Near Liverpool in the UK.
[22:57] <stellar-slack> Timezone clocks say that 5pm would have been a more Euro-friendly time to have a live feed :simple_smile:
[22:59] <stellar-slack> yeah, I’m planning to watch it too but it will be pretty hard :wink: but we have :coffee: :smile:
[23:07] <stellar-slack> yeah, I know it's rough on folks in your time zones :confused: It's hard to have an event at a time that works for people in SF and still lines up with other time zones. For instance, nobody would come to a 5pm SF meetup.
[23:07] <stellar-slack> just so ya know, the livefeed is also recorded and will be both live and replayable here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ywUFVNI6Os
[23:09] <stellar-slack> @eva no problem! I was about to post this :simple_smile: everyone will be able to watch it tomorrow.
[23:09] <stellar-slack> thanks bartek!
[23:09] <stellar-slack> sending you guys all the virtual :coffee:
[23:22] <stellar-slack> If we have any folks from South Africa here, Jed + Joyce are going to be there for the next week or so! If you'd like to meet up, drop us a line here: http://goo.gl/forms/mCCPLsPvas
[23:23] <stellar-slack> ^ @jaquesc
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